By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. Now neither Christian culture is by any means endangered to become a minority (although some US Bible Belt hate preachers consistently claim so) nor is Chinese culture, so both are out of ansatz here. Monsters like Wendigos often represent, in the imprecise language of emotion, a common cultural fear. [16] Whenever a wendigo ate another person, it would grow in proportion to the meal it had just eaten, so it could never be full. However, PCism taken to its extreme would say that neither Cooper, nor I, should be telling stories about Wendigos at all, since were not of aboriginal descent. Chippewa author Louise Erdrich's novel The Round House, winner of the National Book Award, depicts a situation where an individual person becomes a wendigo. There's too much variety of opinion on the question to obtain a consensus. It also seems to me to be unacceptable for authors to be unable to use one (or more) of those characters/symbols/etc. 12. One of those advisors I just mentioned, Chris Eyre, had this to say of the Wendigo: They [meaning Native peoples] truly, truly believe in it, because it represents greed and colonialism when we first came to the shores of what is now America, and pillaged all of their resources and forced them [into] cannibalism. As researchers, most of us are lost in a wilderness filled with Windigo, Skinwalkers and various other indigenous cosmological entities, and we need to recognize we have no idea what we are talking about. Cultural appropriation, defined Culture refers to the traditions, customs, beliefs, and practices of any given ethnic, racial, or religious group. That's an easy solution and I still keep my freedom to create. The question of how to challenge the wtiko psychosis as described by Forbes and Wendigo Economics as described by LaDuke is a difficult one, but the mythic force of the concept of the wendigo helps to underscore the urgency of these questions. Cultural appropriation by a dominant culture is harmful to underrepresented cultures because it reduces cultural significance and reinforces double standards. BLACKPINK. And I accept that the Wendigo can symbolize for them that exploitation. By entering your email and clicking Sign Up, you're agreeing to let us send you customized marketing messages about us and our advertising partners. I can't say for sure how much research Rowling did when writing her series, but others have pointed out that it doesn't seem like much. Blackwood's work has influenced many of the subsequent portrayals in mainstream horror fiction,[42][43] such as August Derleth's "The Thing that Walked on the Wind" and "Ithaqua" (1933 and 1941),[41] which in turn inspired the character in Stephen King's novel Pet Sematary,[42] where it is a personification of evil, an ugly grinning creature with yellow-grey eyes, ears replaced by ram's horns, white vapor coming from its nostrils, and a pointed, decaying yellow tongue. And some natives don't care at all. Anyone who lives in a place that is exposed to more than . The Indians asked the Windigo if there was any fat on them. Those poor men (according to the report given us) were seized with an ailment unknown to us, but not very unusual among the people we were seeking. I'm not skilled enough to draw these (")> lolz. wendigos originate from spiritual beliefs held by Algonquian Indigenous peoples, whom are from the north eastern part of north america. Welcome to Facing Today, a Facing History blog. The Wendigo (Also known as windigo, weendigo, windago, waindigo, windiga, witiko, wihtikow, and various other names including manaha) originates from Native-American legend, and is said to be a demonic half-beast as told by the Algonquian peoples along the Atlantic coast of the United States and Canada. [5], In his 2004 treatise Revenge of the Windigo on disorders and treatments of the behavioral health industry in the United States and Canada that are peculiar to indigenous people, James B. Waldram wrote,[34]. teachers and their students to stand up to bigotry and hate. In an as-yet unpublished urban fantasy novel of mine, I basically did the same thing; I made a supporting character an Acheri, completely bungling any semblance of folkloric accuracy in my attempt to come up with a "cool" and "unorthodox" monster. He has written, produced and directed (and occasionally acted in) over a dozen plays, most of them in the Horror and Crime genres. The reason I chose this game is due to how this game has story in it, and I think it would fit this meme well for an analysis and review. They are afflicted with neither lunacy, hypochondria, nor frenzy; but have a combination of all these species of disease, which affects their imaginations and causes them a more than canine hunger. Sentences like "The Native American wizarding community was particularly gifted in animal and plant magic" are cringe-worthy if you give them a little thought, and the notion that only European wizards were clever enough to invent wands, which make magic "more precise and more powerful" borders on horrific levels of cluelessness. Dont like someones fetish? That taste of human flesh, which out of that rose the wendigo.. Cultural appropriation, feel like a real blur to me but I never worry about it I feel it can dampen the creative process. Far from just being a monster in an escapist horror flick, Forbes and LaDuke demonstrate that the wendigo can help us grasp the horrors of our real world so we can be here now and, ultimately, work toward solutions. It's just fiction, I thought. The concept of cultural appropriation began well enough, but just like everything else woke culture political correctness, it's gone way too far. Posted by
Character can be mean, evil or complete asshole but you still should be respectful while writing said character. [49][50] In the 2021 film The Inhuman (L'Inhumain) the arrival of a wendigo symbolizes inner turmoil after a character turns his back on his Indigenous heritage in the pursuit of material success. What makes the wendigo any different from other culturally important mythological creatures like unicorns? Wendigos, teepees and cultural appropriation I read some stuff yesterday saying that teepees are cultural appropriation and there was a long post about how wendigos aren't cryptids and how stories about them are cultural appropriation. Just as the vampire and werewolf do not belong exclusively to people of European descent and the Mummy doesnt belong to Egyptians. Second, he determines the relevant issues as "aesthetic" and "moral," and then discusses the most prominent arguments that surround each type of appropriation. Unlike cultural appropriation, strategic anti-essentialism can be practiced by both minority cultures and majority cultures. It sounds like you did research which is more that J. K. Rowling so I think yes? How stupid to think otherwise. Native Americans shouldn't be a "niche," and neither should women, LGBT people, or people of color. In my blind quest to represent everyone, all I did was reinforce the problem. Contents 1 History 2 Gallery 3 Trivia 4 Navigation History It is unknown if it would have been an entire species or a singular creature. We should show proper respect to our Cryptids at all times, and Im rightfully righteously indignant at the thought of anyone doing otherwise with Mothman. Oh yeah, Marvel. The Cambridge Dictionary, defines it as "the act of taking or using things from a culture that is not your own, especially without showing that you understand or respect this culture."And a lot of times, it is marked by a dominant culture taking from one that has been colonized and oppressed . And we merely follow".[38]. (Not to put too fine a point on it, but you should totally go buy my novella. For Indigenous peoples in Canada, cultural appropriation is rooted in colonization and ongoing oppression. According to Professor Chris Schedler, the figure of the wendigo represents "consuming forms of exclusion and assimilation" through which groups dominate other groups. No they ain't. It also includes the unauthorized use of parts of their culture (their dress, dance, etc.) The game I will be going over in this is Until Dawn, a horror game made by Supermassive Games, made . There's also Wendigo psychosis. It just looks like a human that may be bigger than normal. "Today, many believe the crows to be . In, This page was last edited on 15 February 2023, at 02:58. This country is seeking to be whole Stretching out its arms and consuming all it can. [20], Among the Assiniboine, the Cree, and the Ojibwe, a satirical ceremonial dance is sometimes performed during times of famine to reinforce the seriousness of the wendigo taboo. and our This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. In the course of the transformation from human to wendigo, the person exhibits increasing selfishness, violence, hunger, and greedparticularly for human flesh. appropriation, or - as I argue - misappropriation, of the Wendigo as a Further, cultural appropriation often occurs as the backwash of colonization, and contributes to widening existing divisions and perpetuating patterns of historic dispossession and oppression. [17] Therefore, wendigos are portrayed as simultaneously gluttonous and extremely thin due to starvation. In another unaware move made by a YG artist, mega girl group BLACKPINK, were recently called out for cultural appropriation. I do not know whether Algonquin People indeed consider Wendigo depictions in mainstream media so culturally sensitive or taboo as the "woke" in your lead comment implied I would somehow doubt it but do not know for sure. I dont know who originally posted it, or where. 5. It only becomes cultural appropriation when an element of culture is adopted from a marginalized group without respect for its cultural meaning or significance or with the purpose of exploiting the culture In some artistic depictions, it looks similar to the pop-culture wendigo and even makes an appearance in The Witcher games but instead it's called a Leshen. "[37] This application allows Native Americans to describe colonialism and its agents as wendigos since the process of colonialism ejected natives from their land and threw the natural world out of balance. But, but, what if they're looking at something that erodes the moral fabric of civilization? no actual cases of windigo psychosis have ever been studied, and Lou Marano's scathing critique in 1985 should have killed off the cannibal monster within the psychiatric annals. Privacy Policy. [57] In the 2018 first-person shooter video game Dusk, wendigos are enemies that remain invisible until they receive damage. Representation in media is crucially important, something I have become very aware of as I've grown older and consumed more entertainment. The Wendigo, also known as the Hollowed, was a type of Creature of Grimm that was proposed to appear in the animated webseries RWBY. J.K is weird for using name like that, it isn't hard to google names, i know she wrote books before internet was as "popular" as now, but i honestly doubt that she couldn't find name and surname of east asian person, she could of used names from either celebrity ( use surname of one and name of other or something like that), she could of used name from character from some book, there were ways of finding name that isn't bad as Cho-Chang, also i find it a bit weird that said character is in "smart" house, feels way to stereotypical for me. Political correctness started out as one thing, a good thing. But if they actually did, I would pick another monster from the giant Pandemonium one has at one's choice. I have always felt a distinct emotional connection to it, in fact. Created by the writer Steve Englehart and artist Herb Trimpe, the monster is the result of a curse that afflicts those who commit acts of cannibalism. And you know what? In a report from the Contemporary Folklore conference covered in issue 388 of FORTEAN TIMES, the go-to magazine for all things paranormal, weird, or unexplained, a complaint is voiced about the cultural appropriation of the Wendigo, likening it to the sexualization of the Mothman statue in Point Pleasant, West Virginia. The legend of the wendigo has long been associated with real-life problems like insatiable greed, selfishness, and violence. This year's Met Gala theme China: Through the Looking Glass was just begging for cultural appropriation, which led many starlets to play it safe with minimal references to China.Emma Roberts, however, earned herself Twitter backlash for wearing chopsticks in her hair.. Chopsticks in the hair is one of many broadly "Asian" styles tried on by Western dressers (for what it's worth . Writer, musician, activist, single father from Chicago. But Native Americans shouldn't be a "niche," and neither should women, LGBT people, or people of color. The novel describes its primary antagonist, a rapist whose violent crimes desecrate a sacred site, as a wendigo who must be killed because he threatens the reservation's safety. This ailment attacked our deputies; and, as death is the sole remedy among those simple people for checking such acts of murder, they were slain in order to stay the course of their madness. Privacy Policy. But overall I can't stand JKR. They went back again to see if he was dead. [40][41] Joe Nazare wrote that Blackwood's "subtly-demonizing rhetoric transforms the Wendigo from a native myth into a descriptive template for the Indian savage."[42]. Part of HuffPost Entertainment. Western capitalistic expansion and cultural appropriation (see . I would refuse to be shackled by political correctness. The deaths of tens of millions of Jews, Slavs, etc., at the hands of the Nazis, the deaths of tens of millions of blacks in slavery days, the deaths of up to 30 million or more Indians in the 1500s, the terribly short life spans of Mexican Indian farm workers in the US, and of Native Americans generally today, the high death rates in the early industrial centers among factory workers, and so on, all clearly attest to the fact that the wealthy and exploitative literally consume the lives of those that they exploit. Indigenous peoples have seen culturally . This inspired an entire thread -->, Sucks to be these artists I guess. The film dives deep into cultural appropriation during those pivotal scenes in which the black crows help save the day for the titular flying elephant. Myeesquatis was holding the other leg and we were praying. If ANYTHING is disrespectful to woke (does not exist in the real world) culture then I say: DO IT - AND DO IT BIG!!! It's a term for what happens to people who for one reason or another turn to eating other people. (1961). That's just pulling a potential explanation out of my ass, though, I have no idea if its accurate or not. Theres something else. No they fucking aren't. Their visitations speak to the inseparability of human experience National identity is irrelevant to this borderless horror. I wouldn't be offended if someone dressed as a stereotypical Scottish person whatever that looks like lol. 9 Neil Jamieson-Williams Science Fiction Writer (part-time/now full-time) at Self-Employment (1977-present) Author has 1.7K answers and 1.1M answer views Updated 6 mo Ah, another Mike Wilson question So some may be fine if you draw it but don't say its full name. Contributors control their own work and posted freely to our site. And besides that, it never hurts to include your sources. Ojibwe scholar Brady DeSanti asserts that the wendigo "can be understood as a marker indicating a person imbalanced both internally and toward the larger community of human and spiritual beings around them. Strictly speaking, cultural appropriation is the adoption of some element of another culture -- food, language, practices, fashion, etc. Those things, the predation on the Indians by Europeans, most certainly happened. [43] These works set the template for later portrayals in popular culture, at times even replacing the Native American lore. The Wendigo was gaunt to the point of emaciation; its desiccated skin pulled tautly over its bones. As a creator, I believe it is my responsibility, the responsibility of any creator, if using characters that belong to a culture other than mine and exploring themes from that culture, to be accurate. For example, dressing up as a Native American while using redface and using the gaudiest, most elaborate costume you can think of (using the stereotypical feathered headress, tribal print tan clothing, holding a spear, etc.). WAYNE MILLER is the owner and creative director of EVIL CHEEZ PRODUCTIONS (www.evilcheezproductions.blogspot.com, www.facebook.com/evilcheezproductions), specializing in theatrical performances and haunted attractions. Windigo is a malevolent manitou or spirit whose insatiable appetite for human flesh can never be satisfied. I do not possess the cultural or social knowledge required. The wendigo -- a creature from Native American myth -- carries powerful symbolism and is presumably sufficiently mysterious to keep enough audience members guessing at its motives and abilities. Send them to Marvel. So, thanks, Dave! 8.1.2014. It's fine for colonized Indians to incorporate European fitness . I will draw whatever I feel like drawing. This term only applies to a . And they are worth considering including in one's classroom teaching. They're monsters. With its bones pushing out against its skin, its complexion the ash-gray of death, and its eyes pushed back deep into their sockets, the Wendigo looked like a gaunt skeleton recently disinterred from the grave. creators (a large majority being white) . She states that the wendigo symbolically represents three major concepts: it is the incarnation of winter, the embodiment of hunger, and the personification of selfishness. And that's exactly the problem. Cultural appropriation refers to the use of objects or elements of a non-dominant culture in a way that reinforces stereotypes or contributes to oppression and doesn't respect their original meaning or give credit to their source. It shouldn't be bad thing if you don't mock culture, make sure to have all information you can ( read books from culture or ask someone who grew up with said culture if they are willing to teach you) but then again they aren't from your culture and unlike creatures like vampires they are a bit more closed i don't know is it good to use them. Facing History & Ourselves uses lessons of history to challenge Mythical being in Native American folklore, "Windigo" redirects here. (Anything that isnt outright vandalism isnt likely to harm the statue at all, but I wouldnt dare do anything disrespectful around it. The idea that diversity and representation can be addressed simply through a "balance between four guys and four girls" or through the removal of "traditional phallic stabbing" troubles me. wendigo appropriationplymouth township mi police scanner. iii 3 four quarters: Jack D. Forbes' concept of colonialism as a manifestation of wtiko psychosis; ethnographical works that feature fearsome figures from the stories of North American tribal Wendigo Cannibalism in Native American Folklore. We should talk about how Thor and Loki are cultural appropriation of Norwegian mythology. Let's stop dancing around this ugly truth: Right now, Katy Perry is pop culture's most prominent purveyor of racist cultural appropriation. Cookie Notice Historically, deciding exactly what culture is hasn't been easy. To fully understand its consequences, though, we need to make sure we have a working definition of culture itself. I won't pretend I know everything about NA culture, but I believe that headresses and that kind of finery is only used on special occasions and was not how ordinary NAs dressed all the time. For more information, please see our For more information, please see our Idiots have just made a religion out of being racist about culture and only allowing genetic descendants to participate in cultures. When first hearing this criticism, I, as a wannabe author of fiction (by the way, you can buy my debut novella here) rolled my eyes and whitesplained to myself why Rowling wasn't doing anything wrong. As much as I would love to tell everyone to just read her sources and then be able to understand everything better, I just don't think that's realistic for most people(because they are not easily accessible to most, and I don't think that was her intention by including these in her description. ". Appropriating the Wendigo As it so happens, I am currently working on a project involving a Wendigo, so this is personal to me. Your culture and entertainment cheat-sheet. By the mid-1990s, it had gained a solid place in academic discourse, particularly in the field of sociology. If an idea has merit, it doesn't need protecting. That borrowing and exchanging of cultural elements is what makes America the melting pot of the world. No cultural appropriation in it, I promise! Mistgod Edited Oct 11, 2020 Hobbyist Traditional Artist Apparently, wendigos are sacred creatures from several indigenous cultures. Theyre revered spirits to the point where people wont speak their name so it must be frustrating when people are just like Oh yeah, I saw one of those, it was so spooky or have an aesthetic called wendigocore. Now why cant that be said to prudes lurking here. It really depends who you talk to. These things feel formulaic, quantitative, mathematicbalancing equations and subtraction. Some researchers argued that, essentially, Wendigo psychosis was a fabrication, the result of nave anthropologists taking stories related to them at face value without observation. My basic rule is simple: be respectful. No, I read your comment. without permission. In Algonquian traditions, the wendigo monster emerges not randomly or in violent response to colonialism as it often does in popular media but through a specific set of circumstances that are unique to different tribal groupings. I would advise anyone, however, who feels that way about my choice to create art or literature based on a wendigo, to simply avoid my gallery and writing. "This isn't going to be the last time a story like this emerges about cultural appropriation, and what it emphasises is how much we need more diversity, in all components of the fashion industry," says Lewis. So, now I realize, what the hell was I doing, thinking I could write about Native American folklore with anything approaching honesty? It has become something else altogether. Until Dawn logo. Cultural appropriation is perhaps the stupidest example of the stupidest concept , political correctness , that has ever been argued. He wasn't dead. [23], What caused us greater concern was the news that met us upon entering the Lake, namely, that the men deputed by our Conductor for the purpose of summoning the Nations to the North Sea, and assigning them a rendezvous, where they were to await our coming, had met their death the previous Winter in a very strange manner. In addition to denoting a cannibalistic monster from certain traditional folklore, some Native Americans also understand the wendigo conceptually. That, I would affirm, is truly and literally cannibalism, and it is cannibalism accompanied by no spiritually meaningful ceremony or ritual., More than a commentary on the life of wendigo stories amongst his own people, Forbes deploys the metaphor of the wendigo to advance nothing less than a critique of civilization at large and describes the violence that he argues lies at its foundation as one driven by a kind of wendigo psychosis. So yeah, if anyone could offer any insight/information, thatd be appreciated. The horror film Antlers adopts an old monster for its story, which serves as both a benefit and a hindrance. Why is indigenous culture suddenly more sacred than any other culture? I know what cultural appropriation is but Ive not been as involved in social justice as I used to be and I guess its showing. Dollightful's Wendigo Doll - Cultural Appreciation or Appropriation? A classic example is wearing a Plains Indian war bonnet (see the 80s band The Village People). [33], The frequency of Wendigo psychosis cases decreased sharply in the 20th century as Boreal Algonquian people came into greater and greater contact with European ideologies and more sedentary, less rural, lifestyles. That will depend on who you ask. identity. The Witherell House and the Cult of Weird, Movie Review: BIRDS OF PREY (And the Fantabulous Inclusion of Victor Zsasz and a Hyena). Film, Halloween is literally a holiday (most Americans see it as a good excuse to dress as a sexy cat or whatever, but there are actually still people left who believe it's sacred and who perform rituals etc for the holiday). Sacred creatures? so no, if you're some white kid hearing crying in the forests of california you're not being "lured into the "Windigo Psychosis: A Study of Relationship between Belief and Behaviour among the Indians of Northeastern Canada." [clarification needed] The ceremony, known as wiindigookaanzhimowin, was performed during times of famine, and involved wearing masks and dancing backward around a drum. Thank god I am not from USA, where this seems to be an issue. Check it out here:https://youtu.be/fHE4fkvUpWMI really just made this video to express how I am currently feeling about the wendigo doll situation and the questions I have about it. As a concept, wendigo can apply to situations other than some Native American-European relations. [12] Although descriptions can vary somewhat, common to all these cultures is the view that the wendigo is a malevolent, cannibalistic, supernatural being. It first appeared in The Incredible Hulk #162 (April 1973), and again in the October 1974 issue. How dare they? Still though, Im not sure I fully get the Native American spirits(?) Doing so is an honorable endeavorbut only if we actually do our homework first. First, he gives definitions of the key concepts of "appropriation" and "arts," and delimits his investigation as one concerned with "cultural" appropriation. His first novel, THE CONFESSIONS OF SAINT CHRISTOPHER: WEREWOLF, is available for purchase at https://www.smashwords.com/books/view/734763
He said to the boy "Hurry up. If I can draw my own version of a Chinese dragon, or my own version of angel or demon, I can draw a wendigo. Don't tell lies to those Indians." I believe that the Wendigo is far older than that, far more primal. Not so for anyone who isn't a straight, white male, and this trend in entertainment forces many people to seek out "niche" markets to find characters who look like them and are portrayed honestly and realistically. "** 40. The Wendigo is a mythical creature that has been reported in many different forms. Cultural appropriation is the use of a people's traditional dress, music, cuisine, knowledge and other aspects of their culture, without their approval, by members of a different culture. cultural identity theft, many would argue that cultural appropriation is inevitable in a melting pot like the United States. Creative freedom is a beautiful luxury too many do not understand; it wasn't but a hundred years ago when art was said to have an objective hierarchy, and that was how it was for thousands of years. [45] Wrist, the 2016 debut novel by First Nations horror fiction writer Nathan Niigan Noodin Adler (Lac Des Milles Lacs Anishinaabe),[46] combines the traditional Ojibwe legend with the author's ideas inspired by non-Indigenous writers like Anne Rice and Tim Powers. The name comes from the animal's reported habit of attacking and drinking the blood of livestock, especially goats. [56], Various characters inspired by the legend, or named for it, appear in Role-playing video games, such as 2018's Fallout 76 by Bethesda Game Studios, where wendigos are featured as one of the cryptid enemies found in the area of Appalachia, mutated from people who consumed human flesh in isolation. revolutionary war veteran interview, lacrosse helmet reconditioning,
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